I like that quote. Be the best you can be no matter what.
I see that you got smart... and left.
all i have to say about that is that i agree with the following quote attributed to marcus aurelius:.
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I like that quote. Be the best you can be no matter what.
I see that you got smart... and left.
i never post on here.
i am sanchy's wife.
i posted my coming out story about 3 yrs ago.
Wow, reading that stuff, is like, really annoying to say the least. All of the WT quotes I mean.
What if they wanted to get rid of Morris and sent him out to buy this stuff? Oh gee Brother Morris, since everyone on youtube saw you, we're going to have to let you go. As a remembrance of your time here, take a pillow!
Maybe it was for entertaining some friends in high places or, 1 for each of the 12 tribes of Israel.
i’ve always wondered about this one.
if the bible says there will be a resurrection of the righteous and the unrighteous, does that mean all mankind that have died will come back to life?
if so, what’s the incentive for jws to have an urgency to preach and save people?
The Wt has had to change it's stance on who gets to live thru Armageddon. I remember several years ago, sisters were quite concerned with babies and children being killed at A. The WT came up with how no one can read hearts and so we don't know who will come thru. But they also said that Hitler, Ghengas Khan would be able to be resurrected because they had paid for their sins. But a JW at work was very fearful of making one mistake during the great tribulation and losing out on everlasting life. How just is that?
I don't think most of the people in the world that have been raised "christian" worry about it much now. Everyone thinks they're good and will get a pass. Back in the days of Hell and purgatory, then they had you worrying. Christendom has changed just like the WT into a softer version of what's in store for the sinners because people won't put up with it.
i have done bible study for about four months now.
the married couple who do it with me are lovely.
i have attended meetings for about two months.
Yes it is actually surprising that she had a beer with you. And then she said something to a friend. Friend said you can't get interested in a "worldly" guy who isn't baptized yet. Better get a few brothers who will make sure he goes to meetings and who will show the narrow pathway of spiritually to him.
You will be scrutinized about your progress, meeting attendance and future out in service moments. This will take many months. If she starts to even hang out with you, she might be counseled by the elders (leaders of the congregation) to not to do so until you are baptized.
If you would like to know a few facts about this religion - not just the nice things but the history and practices of it - please go to https://jwfacts.com/
remember how much your life revolved around fears?
fears of how going to a new place, might put you in harms way?
how bad the world was and how even talking to people, might find you robbed etc?.
Remember how much your life revolved around fears? Fears of how going to a new place, might put you in harms way? How bad the world was and how even talking to people, might find you robbed etc?
I write this because when I left the "truth", it was made easier by me moving 15 minutes away into a house I bought. The place is over the hill in a more "exciting" city with poorer people. I got my house just at the end of the housing crash so this was a place I could afford.
The comments my mom has made, are somewhat hilarious. They are always based on the worst scenario. And most of it is because she has lived sixty plus years of it in the "truth".
How you been shot at yet? Has anyone shot thru your windows? You must be careful at all times.
My street is very quiet. The worst that has happened is a house got burned up at the end of the street because of wiring. Recently, I am trying out Doordash to make extra money. One of the first things she said to me was "What if a naked man comes to the door?"
At work, I was regularly whispered to about how bad the world is, how events are coming to a head from the office JW. All sorts of fears about people are addressed. Being a JW makes you suspicious of all people that you haven't met. The WT does a good job of placing a space in your thinking in which all unknowns, must project fear. I know because it worked on me.
I walked around with that fear going on in my mind. All events, places, people etc. could hold unknown dangers such as physical and spiritual ones. Conversely, the WT wanted you to ignore those fears and go talk to people that you would naturally be cautious of out in service. That is what scares me now when I think of it. Who knows how many put themselves in a wrong spot trying to follow the WT?
what prompted this topic was a dream i had last night where i was engaged in a conversation i had with an old friend where i was trying to prove where the jw`s were wrong from their own bible.. and this is not the first time i have had such dreams.. often times i have had dreams about people i have known in the religion .. remember i have been away from the religion for more than 26 years now and in a totally different part of the country .. i now wonder if any of them ever dream about my wife and i ?
but that`s something i`ll never know.. do any of you have any such experiences ?.
maybe i`m spending too much time on this site lol.
I went thru a spate of JW dreams recently. People from the old hall, assemblies and the dreaded you have a talk tonight nightmare. But none of it had specific people talking to me. Kind of reminded me of school dreams - what is my locker number? What class am I supposed to be in?
the jehovah's witnesses believe that only the father is lord god, however by searching the scriptures we can identify that there are more than one person in the godhead, and the lord jesus as well as the holy spirit are lord.. for those who are interested in learning, feel free to watch this new video..
Long crazy post ahead. Swerve if you can.
Why not view it in another way?
You as a human, travel to another planet. After meeting some the natives, a really nice one walks up and introduces himself as A1. A1 is friendly, kind and very observant. Tries to help everyone out by mediating between them. You even find out, that he is great at healing. But at the end of the day he leaves. You go to the local bar and just as you are going in, all of the natives are leaving. One says to you "You better not be here after dark" Why? you ask. "Because A2 feels it's disrespectful to him if you drink after the sun goes down. And if anyone sees you do it, then the area has to get together and put you to death."
Puzzled you ask who's this A2 and how can he make people do this? The native whispers, "he's the one that made the planet and everything else here. A2 makes all the rules and if you break them, there are dire consequences. But of course, he does this because he loves us." He takes out a thick book hands it to you. "Better read this so you don't get into trouble." After looking thru some of it, there are basic rights and wrongs that don't seem bad. But it also has entries in it that are troubling. Seems A2 plays favorites. Pardoning some of his friends for rule breaking but killing off others for the same thing.
So you avoid the bar at night because you just never know what A2 might take offense at. You never see him, but all of the natives talk as if he was there listening.
One day some strange things happen. You ask the natives what is going on. They say "oh that is A3" Strange and miraculous things happen because of A3. How come I don't see A3? Well says the native "you never see A3, just like you don't see A2." How do you know there is an A2? The native says "Because A2 and A3 are the same. And we know A2 is real because we have this book." But anyone can write a book you say. The native shakes his head. "Really, all you have to do is ask A1. A1 is the same as A2 and A3."
How can that be you think. A1 was nice and kind yet A2 is all about rules and punishment. A3, well it just seems a catch all for strange things that happen.
So you talk to one of the natives about it. They just say the same thing over and over. So you ask where A1 is because you would to question him. Their answer is, "he's gone away to A2 and A3 because they all are just one anyway.
Now as science fiction, it works. You can make anything up and that is the way your world is. But in real life, the traits that jesus had, isn't reflected in God. Jesus was more about people and helping them, God is all about teaching everyone a lesson. A lesson so important he allows disease and parasites to destroy humans - young, old, and the inbetweens. God is alright with torture too. I don't see any reports of angels having saved people from the concentration camps - just regular old humans did that. Course it would have been faster and better if God had done something. But he is too determined to make sure we all know it down to the last starving child.
Of course that is the JW explanation of why the world is like this. Other religions have god wanting people suffer to make them a better person or testing them. Just as bad. Is that something you think Jesus would approve of? Course, his own dad god friend thought it would really great to show everyone that his son loved him enough to die a terrible death. So if they are all one, they all died.
I just realized that the 3 musketeers are all the same too.
california senator jerry hill's bill, sb 360, passed the public safety committee at the capitol building in sacramento, california, this morning without opposition.
out of eight senators in the committee, three senators excused themselves, and five voted for the bill.
http://calchannel.granicus.com/mediaplayer.php?view_id=7&clip_id=6064&fbclid=iwar2adhuxflh8m6qz9nxjqaoulyyxyahx6b0wctzijphaajav_9dnddpq29i move the time marker to 57:20 where the discussion of sb 360 starts.. senate bill 360 requires clergy to report child abuse and neglect under any circumstancess.
Jwleaks - thanks for posting the old and the new. Last paragraph is the pedophiles permission slip GONE.
"faithful and discreet" booze delivery service.
our motto is:.
"we will faithfully deliver your booze on time and be very discreet about it!
Answering machine: Hi, we're not here to take your call. We'll get back to you after the Great Tribulation starts. Hope you've paid your bill....
we've often seen the happifying kingdom trope of a bearded bible student coming up from the baptism water with a freshly shaven, baby smooth face.
beards, after all, signify independent thinking and are best left to worldlings.
our new july 2019 issue of the watchtower, however, sheds increasing light on the subject.
In all 3 pictures he's wearing orange. I guess this is to show that he is the same person....
Yes, no one would recognize him otherwise. Although when you think about it, they use orange in prisons too...
Wouldn't it be funny if they showed Jesus with his beard before his baptism, and coming out of the water without it?